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what's amazing is that people are now more concerned with the deficit and our dysfunctional government than they are with unemployment. the first time since 2009. >>> there's a troubling new statistic from the department of defense involving u.s. service members. the number of suicides in the military surged to a record high of 349 last year. that's according to the associated press. that exceeds the 295 americans who died fighting in afghanistan in 2012. >>> the military has launched a number of new programs to improve mental health services and increase awareness of the problem which the pentagon has now labeled an epidemic. >>> there's an unlikely voice entering the obesity debate. with local governments considering measures similar to mayor bloomberg's crackdown on large sugary drinks in new york city, soda giant coca-cola now stepping into the conversation. coke has unleashed a new ad campaign that defends its record while acknowledging the company's role when it comes to america's weight problem. nbc's chris jansing with the details. ♪ ♪ teach the world to sing to perfect har
what's amazing is that people are now more concerned with the deficit and our dysfunctional government than they are with unemployment. the first time since 2009. >>> there's a troubling new statistic from the department of defense involving u.s. service members. the number of suicides in the military surged to a record high of 349 last year. that's according to the associated press. that exceeds the 295 americans who died fighting in afghanistan in 2012. >>> the military has...
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assume we all want to reduce our deficits and reduce the amount of debt. do we want to do that by cutting social security and medicare and taking these entitlements and the safety net and fundamentally changing it or do we want more cash from individuals and from companies and whether you do that through higher rates or tax reform or getting rid of deductions, you know, that's a debate worth having and i think one that democrats can be in a pretty decent position to win if they talk about it in the right way. >> dan gross, thanks for coming. >> thank you. >>> next, developing news this afternoon on the latest sandy aid bill before congress. a house vote is expected tonight but there's plenty of opposition and maybe for good reason. we're spinning as "the cycle" rolls on for tuesday, january 15th. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, casc
assume we all want to reduce our deficits and reduce the amount of debt. do we want to do that by cutting social security and medicare and taking these entitlements and the safety net and fundamentally changing it or do we want more cash from individuals and from companies and whether you do that through higher rates or tax reform or getting rid of deductions, you know, that's a debate worth having and i think one that democrats can be in a pretty decent position to win if they talk about it in...
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. as the speaker said two years ago, it would be, and i'm quoting, speaker boehner now, a financial disaster not only for us but for the worldwide economy. so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here, they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they had better choose quickly because time is running short. the last time republicans in congress even flirted with this idea our aaa credit rating was down graded for the first time in our history, our businesses created the fewest jobs of any mont
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. as the speaker said two years ago, it would be, and i'm quoting, speaker boehner now, a financial disaster not only for us but for the worldwide economy. so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here, they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act...
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it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military health care costs for years. >> sharply rising health care costs are consuming an ever-larger share of this department. growing from 19 billion in 2001. >> military health care costs have gone up 300% in the past decade. 2012 was the first year since 1995 military personnel saw an increase in health care premiums. now, there are two things republicans love, the military and reducing the deficit. republican should be thrilled with the public option. how can you make a hundred billion dollar mistake? who's doing the math? will it save or won'
it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military health care costs...
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wilson finds zach miller in the back of the end zone, the seahawks cut the deficit to six points. seahawks still down by six with less than a minute to play on third and five, wilson avoids the sack, flips it out to marshon lynch who takes it down the sideline and gets the seahawks inside the 4 yard line. two plays later, lynch bulls his way in for the touchdown. he fumbled as he broke the plain, but the play was upheld on review. seahawks take the lead on the extra point. the falcons are on the verge of an epic collapse, but they get into field goal range with 13 seconds to play. matt ryan, with the 49-yarder to take the lead. and pete carroll had called a time out before the ball was kicked. another shot at it, this time he puts it through the uprights. last chance for the seahawks, wilson throws up the hail mary to the end zone, but julio jones, the star wide receiver comes down with the interception to end the game. falcons win in dramatic fashion, 30-28 to get to their first nfc championship game since 1999. after the game, quarterback matt ryan spoke about his winning first
wilson finds zach miller in the back of the end zone, the seahawks cut the deficit to six points. seahawks still down by six with less than a minute to play on third and five, wilson avoids the sack, flips it out to marshon lynch who takes it down the sideline and gets the seahawks inside the 4 yard line. two plays later, lynch bulls his way in for the touchdown. he fumbled as he broke the plain, but the play was upheld on review. seahawks take the lead on the extra point. the falcons are on...
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fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first. then i want to ask a question. >> as climate change threatens the world we leave to our children and good u.s. jobs move overseas, time in the senate ticks by. it keeps ticking by with no results. because the system is broken. but we can fix it. and make the senate work for us again. >> people are stunned when they find out it was not majority vote. that one senator can just stop the process. is it your hope and the hope of cwa that when you do ads like this that the public will put pressure on their senators to reform this and just make it fai
fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first....
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and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow. >> if we need and if republicans argue that what needs to be done is to cut the deficit, they need to perhaps go into default, are you okay with that? ivities illustrates well again i think we need to look at that time it through the lens of economy development. anything to slow this expansion down would have very, very serious consequences to all of us. >> let me ask you about your announcement last week. you were going to hire engineers, computer programmers. last year you announced to add 12,000 jobs by 2015. given everything that's going on, how confident are you that you'll still be able to meet that goal? >> well, i t
and also deal with the trade deficits, but even more importantly, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow and we can expand economic development? because this is still a very, very fragile expansion, though it is a expansion from probably the deepest recession we've ever been in wince the depression. a lot of pent-up demand, so i think this debate is centered on the right thing, what do we do to create an environment where businesses can grow. >> if we need and if...
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> if the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such and such a level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that your paying to care for our veterans. they lay all this out for me. because they have the spending power. and so i am required by law to go ahead and pay these bills. >> many republicans are willing to just let it all burn to the ground. politico reported more and more house republicans are planning to damage the economy. gop officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless president obama agrees to dramatic cuts he has repeatedly said
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> if the country defaults on its debt, republicans will take the blame for the damage, as president obama pointed out, the country is required by law to pay for what congress spends. >> congress authorizes spending. they order me to spend. they tell me you need to fund our defense department at such...
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>> look, at the end of the day, when we deal with the sequester, when we deal with deficit reduction, it has to be in a balance way. we have always said we are willing to support spending cuts. we put our money where our mouth is with the debt ceiling last summer. like i said, before, ed, many of us on the democratic side voted for $1.2 trillion in spending cuts with no revenue, no balance and got a debt ceiling increase. president obama made it very clear we are not negotiating over the debt ceiling again because we have to pay our bills. we have to give certainty to our economy and we have to focus on deficit reduction in a balanced way so we can protect the middle class and working families. >> doesn't this give the progressive movement an opportunity in the next 90 days to really send the message to congress, leave the big three alone? go get your money somewhere else? i mean, it would seem to me that the republicans are going to go that have in the next 90 days, make the case that it's the entitlements that are really the problem in all of this. so this campaign is going to conti
>> look, at the end of the day, when we deal with the sequester, when we deal with deficit reduction, it has to be in a balance way. we have always said we are willing to support spending cuts. we put our money where our mouth is with the debt ceiling last summer. like i said, before, ed, many of us on the democratic side voted for $1.2 trillion in spending cuts with no revenue, no balance and got a debt ceiling increase. president obama made it very clear we are not negotiating over the...
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we have a huge spending deficit problem. they were considering for well over a week the notion of just mint inging a trillion dollar c and calling it good. the federal reserve said that's phony. that doesn't work. and the treasury department on saturday said okay, you are right. we won't go that route. we need serious proposals from the president and it is not just the congress. it is -- we got to work together to solve the country's problems. >> let me -- let me split off debt limit here. are you willing to do the debt limit on its own without any -- president say he's not going to negotiate, are you willing to pass a clean debt limit? >> you know, i think passing a clean debt limit is problematic for the american people as well as for the congress and the country. i think that we should find common ground here to look at spending reforms for the long term to gettous a path to reducing debt and deficit. i think we should look at current spending reductions that could take place and in ways we can grow the economy. i would l
we have a huge spending deficit problem. they were considering for well over a week the notion of just mint inging a trillion dollar c and calling it good. the federal reserve said that's phony. that doesn't work. and the treasury department on saturday said okay, you are right. we won't go that route. we need serious proposals from the president and it is not just the congress. it is -- we got to work together to solve the country's problems. >> let me -- let me split off debt limit...
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's already spent in less than four weeks. i have cousins that do that. they play to hold the debt ceiling hostage. aides say half the conference is ready to let the nation default. speaker boehner will school them on the real threat later this week. even a temporary extension for, say, two or three months could rattle the markets and threaten the nation's credit rating. last time they hashled out a debt deal? summer of 2011 and we ended up more than a trillion dollars in mandatory spending cuts and congress still hasn't addressed and delayed again until marc
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's...
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growing economy along with making meaningful projects, with immigration reform, climate change, balanced deficit reduction, reducing gun violence and the implementation of the affordable care act. with me now, jim messina, the man responsible for re-electing the president and heading this new non-profit group and he's head of the inaugural parade. this is a busy time for you jim, huh? >> hi, craig, how are you? it's busy, but a lot of fun. >> let's start with this new group here. it's set up like a 501 -- it's set up as a 501c4 group which is different from a super pac. it's able to legally coordinate with the white house. how do you think that's going to help the mission? >> look. we went out and surveyed our members across the country and two things became very apparent. one, they wanted to stay together. they had built something very special through two very tough presidential campaigns and two, they wanted to continue to work on the issues that motivated them to get involved with barack obama in the first place. you talked about them, the economy. immigration reform, climate change. all thin
growing economy along with making meaningful projects, with immigration reform, climate change, balanced deficit reduction, reducing gun violence and the implementation of the affordable care act. with me now, jim messina, the man responsible for re-electing the president and heading this new non-profit group and he's head of the inaugural parade. this is a busy time for you jim, huh? >> hi, craig, how are you? it's busy, but a lot of fun. >> let's start with this new group here....
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and let me talk a little bit about the deficit implication. allegedly these guys are saying they want to try to help our debt situation. the debt held by the public is about $10 trillion. that makes the math kind of easy. if we lurch from crisis like this every couple of months, at some point our creditors, the folks who lend ution money, are going to insist on an interest rate premium. suppose it goes up 0.1%, ten basis points. that is equivalent to $10 billion more of debt obligations, and the last time we even bellied up to this debt ceiling debate according to the bipartisan policy center, it cost us about $19 billion over ten years because of the very interest rate affect i'm defining. this is a manufactured crisis mentality with the goal of disparaging government and slashing the heck out of social insurance and spending. make no mistakes about it. >> to jared's point, it does nothing to the deficit. >> it makes it worse. >> it makes it worse. >> paul ryan has never been interested in deficit reduction. if you look at the ryan -- >> hang
and let me talk a little bit about the deficit implication. allegedly these guys are saying they want to try to help our debt situation. the debt held by the public is about $10 trillion. that makes the math kind of easy. if we lurch from crisis like this every couple of months, at some point our creditors, the folks who lend ution money, are going to insist on an interest rate premium. suppose it goes up 0.1%, ten basis points. that is equivalent to $10 billion more of debt obligations, and...
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republicans have taken a pledge, saying they will never raise a dollar in taxes no matter what the budget deficit looks like. he is not why they decided to put the whole u.s. economy at risk if they don't get their way on spending cuts. he is not why the white house partnered with gun legislation, no matter how small, is tantamount to taking away guns, he is not why extreme movements like extreme ideas like going back to a gold standard in the middle of an economic crisis have taken root on the right. this country needs and deserves a better republican party. and there are a lot of people in the republican right now who want a better republican party who are trying to push it there. those people, i think include key leaders in the party, like the house republican leaders this week who are trying to talk their members down from the ledge. they include folks like david brooks who in saying that republicans look deeply unreasonable, they are telling republicans you are being unreasonable. you need to move to the center. the structure of their argument a bit weird, but they're pushing in the right di
republicans have taken a pledge, saying they will never raise a dollar in taxes no matter what the budget deficit looks like. he is not why they decided to put the whole u.s. economy at risk if they don't get their way on spending cuts. he is not why the white house partnered with gun legislation, no matter how small, is tantamount to taking away guns, he is not why extreme movements like extreme ideas like going back to a gold standard in the middle of an economic crisis have taken root on the...
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i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the phone, and he said what would it take? and i said a serious discussion about entitlements, further cuts, and i'll only be your last vote because there had only been two -- in the house as you know, a tie vote goes down. >> sure. >> so i said i'd only be your 218th vote and there had been two votes i knew like this in history. one for the impeachment of andrew johnson and the other one for the draft. >> so -- >> and i said -- and they needed me. but i represented the most -- >> the president needed you, correct? >> correct. >> and the president right now needs dem
i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the...
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and the other factor, too, is we can't forget that one of the best anecdotes to a deficit is a strong, growing economy, particularly growing jobs. and so there are things we have to do to grow jobs. >> i think everybody agrees on the jobs front. anyway, senator jack reed, democrat from rhode island, the senior man when it comes to military affairs in the u.s. senate these days. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >>> up next, the presidential limo gets tagged a political punch. and the second term shuffle continues. another cabinet secretary announces his time for departure. >>> plus, former president bill clinton speaks out on secretary clinton's health and how it could affect any ambitions she might have for 2013. >>> but first, today's trivia question. how many presidents have been inaugurated in an even-numbered year? tweet me the answer, @chucktodd and @dailyrundown. the first correct answer gets a follow we say from us. the correct answer and more is coming up on t"the daily rundo " rundown." nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was j
and the other factor, too, is we can't forget that one of the best anecdotes to a deficit is a strong, growing economy, particularly growing jobs. and so there are things we have to do to grow jobs. >> i think everybody agrees on the jobs front. anyway, senator jack reed, democrat from rhode island, the senior man when it comes to military affairs in the u.s. senate these days. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >>> up next, the presidential limo gets tagged a political punch....
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deficit. the president of the united states -- it is laughable that he would talk about republicans not being responsible on debt issues. when this president has been in the white house sin january 20, 2009, and he's yet to do anything significant on social security or medicare. he cut medicare. so he can start a new entitlement program. that's -- not making medicare more sol vent. he doesn't done anything to curb the cost of medical expenses which he said he was going do. he did nothing. he struck back room deals with hospitals, with special interests, and now he's saying republicans are being reckless? no, no. at some point it becomes more reckless to continue raising the debt ceiling without having democrats come forward with a budget, by the president of the united states, coming forward with a plan to save medicare, medicaid, and social security. we had erskine bowles on. he was very clear. steve ratner agrees. zeke emanuel agrees. democrats, good democrats, agree. that medicare and medic
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he is absolutely prepared to continue to negotiate ways to reduce our budget deficit and that's exactly what we should be doing but we shouldn't be doing it under the threat, the republican threat, of tanking the economy by undermining the full faith and credit of the united states government. we have never done that in the history of this republic and we shouldn't start doing it now. >> all right. congressman van hollen, always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you, sir. >> likewise. >>> the house will vote on the massive hurricane sandy bill and things are heated on the house floor today. >> we are asking, we are pleading and we shouldn't have to beg for money for the northeast to be able to survive. >> but some republicans say they will vote against the bill despite calls from members in their own party to get it done. >>> but first, today's money minute. here's a look at wall street. you see there, the dow down slightly. we'll be right back. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it i
he is absolutely prepared to continue to negotiate ways to reduce our budget deficit and that's exactly what we should be doing but we shouldn't be doing it under the threat, the republican threat, of tanking the economy by undermining the full faith and credit of the united states government. we have never done that in the history of this republic and we shouldn't start doing it now. >> all right. congressman van hollen, always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you, sir. >>...
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we cannot afford a $4 billion a day deficit and trillion dollar plus deficits every single year. we just cannot afford it. so it requires thoughtfulness and it requires that we are going to have a plan to work through this. i think that that's where we as republicans are headed. >> congresswoman marsha blackburn, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. michael, let me get back to you in this meeting that speaker boehner is going to be having and convince that he's going to have to do to conservative members of his party. how tough a sell job? >> i think it's tough. one reason it's tough, i was struck by the congresswoman's comments. i think there is fundamental disagreement about what it would mean not to just have a clean raising of the debt ceiling. so, in other words, if i heard the congresswoman correctly, i think she was reflecting a sense among some people that you could shut down the government, stop paying some bills, pay other bills, pay interest on the debt, for instance, and we could kind of get through it that way. i think a lot of -- a lot of other republicans,
we cannot afford a $4 billion a day deficit and trillion dollar plus deficits every single year. we just cannot afford it. so it requires thoughtfulness and it requires that we are going to have a plan to work through this. i think that that's where we as republicans are headed. >> congresswoman marsha blackburn, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. michael, let me get back to you in this meeting that speaker boehner is going to be having and convince that he's going to have to do...
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bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually have coherent plans for anything they're suggesting. they have sort of hand waving spending cuts, entitlement reform without really writing down a specific path to get there. >> incredible. david corn and jared bernstein, gentlemen, thank you so much. stay with us. we'll be right back. what do we want to build next ? that's the question. every day. when you have the most advanced tools, you want to make something with them. something that helps. helps safeguard our shores. helps someone see through a wall of fire. helps those nowhere near the right doctor stand a chance. ... feeling in the extremities ? no. techno
bush was -- >> i thought their one idea, david, was cutting the deficit. >> that's -- they say that's the case, but it really is they want to just talk about spending cuts as if that is going to help the economy. and any mainstream economist now tells you that you may have to do that in some ways for long-term deficit implications but that's not good in the short run. even simpson/bowles say don't cut so fast. >> and just to be clear, it's not at all clear that they actually...
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deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican party. but if i did, i would say stay away from shutting the government down. stay away from letting the debt ceiling not be raised because those are things that the american people will hate. they'll hate us defaulting onli blame you for it. they'll hate us shutting the government down. if you want to make a stand, make it in the sequester. the sequester has a lot of things that are painful to the democrats and the president. that's the place to plak the stand. and, look, everyone agrees, every rational person agrees with michael
deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican...
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. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an assault weapon ban. >> everybody is totally upset by it. >> what makes sense? what works? >> this is a moment to act. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child, we should take that step. >> the lecturer in chief returns to the east room of the white house today to explain something to congressional republicans that previous presidents have not had to explain to congress. >> i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more s
. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an...
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if they're so into cutting the deficit and they think spend issing the problem, show it off. let's see what you got. they don't want to do it. >> what i don't understand about this is why if you believe that ultimately they're going to have to cave, why don't we just let them cave? why do we need to create all of these other sort of -- as i said wack-a-do arrangements so this can happen? >> it's all leverage, right? if the sequester, that deal is not great for the republicans or that battle is not great for them because that disproportionately hurts republican industries, which is to say the defense industry, which is not to say that there aren't plenty of democrats whose bread is not being buttered by defense contractors, but if you look down at the breakdown of sequester cuts, defense gets hit with $55 billion in cuts, but they are much more severe, and as dave wood from the huffington post has said, it's like taking a meat clever to the defense industry. the nondefense cuts, 55 billion, same amount, but social security, retirement, veterans medicaid, snap, food stamps and
if they're so into cutting the deficit and they think spend issing the problem, show it off. let's see what you got. they don't want to do it. >> what i don't understand about this is why if you believe that ultimately they're going to have to cave, why don't we just let them cave? why do we need to create all of these other sort of -- as i said wack-a-do arrangements so this can happen? >> it's all leverage, right? if the sequester, that deal is not great for the republicans or...
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there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so far, we've actually had $2.4 trillion over a ten-year period of deficit reduction. but about 30% of it has come from rev lienue increases and at the other 70% from come from spending cuts. entirely from discretionary programs. >> what's the budget control act? >> it's what came out of the last debt ceiling debacle when the republicans and the democrats agreed on this trillion dollars of roughly discretionary -- all discretionary spending reductions. but the point is, none of this really touches entitlements. none of it touches the mandatory. and its $2.4 trillion. >> wh
there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so...
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what the balance between spending cuts and revenue increases should be in terms of dealing with the deficit. that's been the battle that's waged since early 2011 and republicans grabbed control of the house. they have the house for two years and feels like more of a ceremonial second inaugural than usual. >> yeah. and i think he's going to have a very tough -- toure was right saying i have a limited idea of how much to get done in this term. lbj in 1965 had had the largest landslide in history, more democrats in congress than any other time in the 20th century except for roosevelt and told the people, we have got six months because i'm going to be asking democrats to make a lot of sacrifices that may hurt them back in their home states and willing to do that for six months and then start rebelling. he was absolutely right because if you think of the big things in the great society, voting rights, medicare, the other stuff, most of that was done during johnson's first six months and turned out to be prophetic and a fair warning. >> yeah, no. 1966 midterms, 46-seat landslide for republicans.
what the balance between spending cuts and revenue increases should be in terms of dealing with the deficit. that's been the battle that's waged since early 2011 and republicans grabbed control of the house. they have the house for two years and feels like more of a ceremonial second inaugural than usual. >> yeah. and i think he's going to have a very tough -- toure was right saying i have a limited idea of how much to get done in this term. lbj in 1965 had had the largest landslide in...
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did you sense there was a deficit of trust between, say, you and the president early on? in afghanistan? >> if you think of any complex endeavor that you're a part of, and you're going to do it with a team of people, if you don't trust them at the outset, you're going to have to develop trust very quickly. >> and he never chose you in this case. do you think that's the issue? >> i think he was involved. i was chosen by secretary gates, and clearly approved by the president. so i wases his commander. i replaced general mckiran in june of 2010. i think, though, there are a number of things. i think people underestimate the difference between the cultures of the civilian culture and military culture. it's not an opposition. they are just different. so they use different words, different backgrounds. they have a different understanding sometimes of history. plus a new administration comes in, any new administration, doesn't matter which party. and they've got to form a team and they're trying to internally form a team and also trying to form a team with people like dod. i wan
did you sense there was a deficit of trust between, say, you and the president early on? in afghanistan? >> if you think of any complex endeavor that you're a part of, and you're going to do it with a team of people, if you don't trust them at the outset, you're going to have to develop trust very quickly. >> and he never chose you in this case. do you think that's the issue? >> i think he was involved. i was chosen by secretary gates, and clearly approved by the president. so...
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. >> sequestration and budget deficits and all of the rest. >> now, these decisions by loips of both parties over the years of who has been running it to shorten the weeks, it's all been about, well, it gives you time to go home, to be in touch with your constituents. that is the feeling. do you think it is too much time being given to campaigning? that is your argument? >> well, that is the rationale. that is what the public is told. the fact is money has become toxic in politics. that is the other big change. i mean, we're told here two things. one is the one with the most money gets the most votes and, number two, you should be spending 30 hours a week in fund raising and call time dialing for dollars. >> let me stop you there. you're told to spend -- this is on your side they want you to spend 30 hours a week making phone calls for raising money? >> yes. for money. and, you know, i'm not going to do that. i haven't done that. i'm here to govern. but the fact is my last election contest years ago i think i spent like $250,000. the total amount of money in my election contest this
. >> sequestration and budget deficits and all of the rest. >> now, these decisions by loips of both parties over the years of who has been running it to shorten the weeks, it's all been about, well, it gives you time to go home, to be in touch with your constituents. that is the feeling. do you think it is too much time being given to campaigning? that is your argument? >> well, that is the rationale. that is what the public is told. the fact is money has become toxic in...
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that's the point of that study and, of course, paul krugman reiterated that deficits are actually not bad, especially when you're in a recessionary environment and that we've actually cut a lot out of the spending. but my concern in all this, while $2.4 trillion is a lot of money to cut over ten years, i'm still concerned about the absolute amount of the debt outstanding which is $16.4 trillion because we've been getting a big break in recent years because the fed has kept interest rates so low. when those interest rates start ticking up, as they would when they end their quaun at this taf easing program and as they would if we don't get the debt ceiling raised, then that cost of interest expense is going to go through the roof. we could be spending as much as $500 billion a year on interest expense alone and that is not a good thing. >> all right. nbc's luke russert and bill cohen -- william cohen, sorry. thank you so much for joining me. >>> next, we'll go to the bous for all of the last-minute detai details. for you... ♪white house for all of the last-minute details. inging the h
that's the point of that study and, of course, paul krugman reiterated that deficits are actually not bad, especially when you're in a recessionary environment and that we've actually cut a lot out of the spending. but my concern in all this, while $2.4 trillion is a lot of money to cut over ten years, i'm still concerned about the absolute amount of the debt outstanding which is $16.4 trillion because we've been getting a big break in recent years because the fed has kept interest rates so...
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the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexi
the huge budget arguments about to take place, the huge deficit spending stuff, the huge we're going to face it again, you know, debt ceiling stuff, what is the republican strategy in dealing with the democrats? david. >> you know, mike, i was on capitol hill this week talking to top republicans, and i'm getting a sense and you're seeing it written about as well, that they would maybe like to step away from the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can...
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two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are -- >> a balanced way. i'm sure he'll use that language as well. >> a balanced way. opposing goals, but he intends to do them both. >> lynn, do you think we'll hear any talk of energy or climate change at all in the speech tomorrow? >> i do. i think climate change will be an added starter when we look at agenda goals, and i don't know if we had this discussion two months ago, even if curbing gun violence would have been something we would have thought would come up tomorrow. >> yeah. >> but i think that it is -- it is just something that the obama administration did not put a super emphasis on in the last four years and will be something that we'll hear about, in addition to the things that bill talked about. but i think somehow that obama will try to still cast himself as somebody who can try to bring more calm voice to civic discourse. i don't see how it could happen right away, because it didn't happen in the last four years. not sure how he can figure out how to navigate is this time. >> let's listen to
two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are -- >> a balanced way. i'm sure he'll use that language as well. >> a balanced way. opposing goals, but he intends to do them both. >> lynn, do you think we'll hear any talk of energy or climate change at all in the speech tomorrow? >> i do. i think climate change will be an added starter when we look at agenda goals, and i don't know if we had this discussion two months ago, even if curbing gun violence would have...
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the deficit ought to be reduced, not on the backs of seniors. the president clear about that today. even though we won't settle all those disputes, you know, next two or four years, that's no excuse for inaction. >> in terms of the outside game that you were just describing there, a thing to talk about throughout today's time to talk and we have been covering the official festivities is a decision by the campaign effort to turn itself in to from organizing for america in to organizing for action, a formalization of the campaign apparatus to be used during the president's time in office. not necessarily for the nexttin jaebd do agenda done. does that mean campaign style ads run against members of congress to try to persuade them to vote a certain way in congress and otherwise might not have voted without that ad? will that happen? >> well, i would just say stay tuned for what exactly we'll do. we'll be very aggressive and the decision made for us by the supporters. we did an exhaustive project after the campaign and asked them what they wanted to do and the answer very clear. they wa
the deficit ought to be reduced, not on the backs of seniors. the president clear about that today. even though we won't settle all those disputes, you know, next two or four years, that's no excuse for inaction. >> in terms of the outside game that you were just describing there, a thing to talk about throughout today's time to talk and we have been covering the official festivities is a decision by the campaign effort to turn itself in to from organizing for america in to organizing for...
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>> we've nearly closed our structural deficit in maryland. it's because of job creation. we've recovered now, thanks to president obama's tough but right decisions, we've recovered 80% of what we lost in the bush recession. you talk about the hyperinflation and medicare medicaid, that's what the affordable care act was about. that's why the president did that. >> but first of all, we're not going to be able to grow out of our problems that we're facing with medicare and medicaid. we're just not. the numbers show that -- >> you agree with that right? >> wait a minute. that cbo also says though that even the affordable care act is not going to stop the ticking demographic time bomb. >> but the common platform that we now have with the affordable care act, if the states step up allows us to bend down that cost curve so we can invest in education, can invest in making college more affordable, can invest -- >> i have to ask you this question because people have said you're talking about possibly thinking about running four years from now. you do understand that people are goin
>> we've nearly closed our structural deficit in maryland. it's because of job creation. we've recovered now, thanks to president obama's tough but right decisions, we've recovered 80% of what we lost in the bush recession. you talk about the hyperinflation and medicare medicaid, that's what the affordable care act was about. that's why the president did that. >> but first of all, we're not going to be able to grow out of our problems that we're facing with medicare and medicaid....